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No. 4799 ID: c128ad hide expand quickreply [Reply]
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>Bob Woodward called a senior White House official last week to tell him that in a piece in that weekend’s Washington Post, he was going to question President Barack Obama’s account of how sequestration came about - and got a major-league brushback. The Obama aide “yelled at me for about a half hour,” Woodward told us in an hour-long interview yesterday around the Georgetown dining room table where so many generations of Washington’s powerful have spilled their secrets.

>Digging into one of his famous folders, Woodward said the tirade was followed by a page-long email from the aide, one of the four or five administration officials most closely involved in the fiscal negotiations with the Hill. “I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today,” the official typed. “You’re focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim.”

>Woodward repeated the last sentence, making clear he saw it as a veiled threat. “ ‘You’ll regret.’ Come on,” he said. “I think if Obama himself saw the way they’re dealing with some of this, he would say, ‘Whoa, we don’t tell any reporter ‘you’re going to regret challenging us.’ ”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/woodward-at-war-88212.html?hp=t1_3

Very interesting thing to say to a reporter when they tell you they question official statements.
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>> No. 4805 ID: 579f34
>>4803
Intention, perhaps. In practice it's kind of stupid.
The Debt Limit Explainedyoutube thumb
>> No. 4806 ID: c128ad
>>4804
Fascinating how fast the left has completely turned on Woodward. Almost as much as how you continue to come here and add nothing to any conversation you get involved in, for example, if you had even read the OP you would have realized that your implication that anyone has compared it to some kind of mafia is completely unfounded.
>> No. 4807 ID: c128ad
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>The White House threatens reporters. A lot. It is sort of a humblebrag to say that people with titles as lofty as "Assistant to the President" and with titles as lowly as "deputy press secretary" have used the F-word in conversations with me. Both White House officials and journalists tend to be arrogant and self-referential, and there is a lot of healthy and sometimes unhealthy tension on the job. We yell at each other, and we butt heads, and we live to work another day.

>Threats about cutting off access are fairly routine.

http://theweek.com/article/index/240717/not-news-white-house-threatens-journalist

So, it's perfectly okay to threaten reporters evidently. Appears that it's just Bob Woodward needs to get over and stop being a cry baby is the talking point that's going around now.
>> No. 4811 ID: cf2712
"I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim."

"You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this."

This is not a threat. It's a warning to Woodward to not harm his reputation by being demonstrably wrong. Woodward misunderstood, because he cannot conceive of ever being demonstrably wrong.


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White House press have released a photo of Obama skeet shooting, an activity he does "all the time" at Camp David.

While this in itself is not noteworthy, the release has come with a very specific warning that the photo shall not be manipulated or...else?

>"This official White House photograph is being made available only for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House."

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/02/02/White-House-Warns-Don-t-Photoshop-Obama-Gun-Pic
>> No. 4788 ID: 5020b5
Oh that's just asking for trouble now.
>> No. 4789 ID: f7ae64
Lets just say that I've seen at least 30 shoops of this on tumblr and 4chan already...

With Obama holding everything from 2 sixshooters (while also wearing a 10 gallon) to him holding a large floppy pink dildo, or a huge slice of pizza.

Lesson of the day: You don't tell the internet "no shooping"
>> No. 4796 ID: b8309e
>way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House.

Welp, they just made a fucking loophole-manipulate the photo in a way that doesn't approve or endorse Obama. Make fun of him in shoops, they lash down, point that part out.


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http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/anonymous-hijacks-federal-website-threatens-doj-document-dump-174943824--abc-news-politics.html

Not sure where this fits best, but I guess here is good as anyplace.
>> No. 4783 ID: d5b282
>Anonymous finds a scapegoat in order to be dicks again
>Claim this time is the tipping point at which they must act.
>In 99% of instances they only DDOS front pages and collect any relevant information
>Go into damage control when called out on their bullshit
>Rinse and repeat
So when are their pasty faces going to be paraded on the news?
>> No. 4784 ID: 98c9d4
>>4783

Probably when the Feds get mad enough.
>> No. 4786 ID: 5b9d03
Ugh, fuck Yahoo. Those comments are a really easy way to go to Depressedville quickly.


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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/01/02/al-jazeera-current-tv-al-gore/1805685/

I think it's a shame that major broadcasters are choosing to drop the channel. It's a big wide world out there...
>> No. 4779 ID: 375c14
It's actually a quite boring channel that manages to not be as vapid and useless as CNN or any of the other US networks. Hardly an accomplishment.
>> No. 4780 ID: 98c9d4
Isn't Keith Olberman on Current? lol
>> No. 4781 ID: 92f3a9
>>4780
Hasnt been for awhile.

I liked the first season of the Rotton Tomatoes show but thats all I bothered with.


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As we speak, the two are probably at the White House, having a very elegant meal. I have a feeling this is not all camaraderie, or a photo op. Obama had once said Mitt had some very good ideas about the economic situation in our country. Let's hope perhaps Mitt has some answers.

Some might see it as a way for Obama to prove to the GOP that he's willing to use a "bend not break" approach to them, and to reach across the aisle. I just don't know. We thought this would happen in 2009, and it didn't. The Republicans in Congress still balked and stale-mated and whined throughout the term, becoming once again the nation's official party of "no".

But now, things are different. The party has lost its way. This last election proves that the "grand old party" needs to become "new", and let go of the roughly 270-year traditions and platitudes. They cannot just reach out to the upper-class anymore.

Someone who was very much pro-Romney laughed in my face when I said in August I didn't think he had a prayer to win.

He sneered at me and told me, "Sure he will. It's the ECONOMY, stupid. Same as it was in the Bush and Reagan years. Bad economy = new president, you'll see."

Then he departed in his BMW for locations unknown.

I wish he'd stuck around because I had a wonderful comeback. "Yes, it IS about the economy. Only, there's so many low-income and poor families now...do you really think they'll vote for someone who won't help them...?"

So, yes...this election was indeed about the economy. =) And the Republican party needs to get off its high horse and see that.
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>> No. 4773 ID: cd9455
Obligatory 'Happy new tax code' post.
>> No. 4775 ID: e4fc10
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/senate-house-faces-test-fiscal-cliff-deal-161832950--politics.html
And only two days late, who'da thunk?
>> No. 4776 ID: 642807
>>4775
There are now two-and-a-half parties in congress. The semi-separate third party has no leader, five seats in the senate, 150 seats in the house, and will obstruct nearly everything.
>> No. 4777 ID: 0a213b
>>4776
Mitch McConell


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http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/21/3792032/nra-video-games

Brilliant.
>> No. 4765 ID: c128ad
They're not the first person to already try this, many papers have already trotted out the video games nonsense.

Nicole Lapin on The Wendy Williams Show ...youtube thumb
>> No. 4768 ID: e4fc10
Standard opperating procedure (for everyone). It's everyone's fault but your own.
>> No. 4769 ID: 98c9d4
I'm impressed they no longer reference Doom and Quake.
>> No. 4772 ID: 92f3a9
>>4768
Technically thats right. They didn't put the gun into the shooter's hands.

But yes blaming video games is retarded.


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http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/20-1

I thought it was an interesting little read, even if I don't wholly understand it. Somebody drop a second and third opinion on this for me.
>> No. 4766 ID: 92f3a9
Progressive masturbation.

The author takes an extremely simplistic view of debt and economics and from there extrapolates that the absence of debt would finally bring about the beginning of that Utopia that they've been trying to build since the French Revolution.

He thinks that it's debt that makes us get jobs and that finance is non productive. He really doesn't understand economics or have a coherent definition of debt. If I don't owe anyone money I still get a job because I need food, shelter, and want luxuries. I guess if you want to stretch debt till it screams I have a debt to my mortal body and to the laws of scarcity (i.e. there is more that people want than there is available.)

> I imagine what would be possible if everyone was able to set out on their own intellectual and experiential journeys without the fear of a debt-collector coming to their door. How then would the peoples of this world choose to live out their lives?

This quote kind of illustrates my point. If I pay off my mortgage and credit card I still have to do my job because things are not just given to me. I don't believe in an instant if debt went away we'd reach a point where we were free from burden... we'd make new debt.

In short the guys an idiot. Sorry Mosh.
>> No. 4767 ID: 3178fc
Sorry for what?
>> No. 4770 ID: 4bd6b1
What if we treat assault rifles like drag racers.

You can own them, you can drive them at the track all you want, but they don't let you drive them home. That actually WOULD have helped in this situation.


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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/14/15907407-26-dead-after-gunman-assaults-connecticut-elementary-school-official-says?lite
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>> No. 4759 ID: ccb95c
>>4758

>Yet still, mass shootings are far more often committed with handguns rather than anything that would fit the definition of an assault weapon

Well then let's focus on how to limit the spreading of handguns. For starters, a limit of two per person and a requirement to regularly present two guns with the correct serial number or face a hefty fine would be a good idea. As I've pointed out, more handguns means more gun deaths, across states and decades.

>There is still no logical reason for anything resembling an assault weapons ban.

Worst-case scenario: it doesn't work and a whole bunch of people get money from the government they hate paying into.

>On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.

>Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.

>At the heart of the push was a massive buyback of more than 600,000 semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, or about one-fifth of all firearms in circulation in Australia. The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase. (Self-defense did not count.) In the wake of the tragedy, polls showed public support for these measures at upwards of 90 percent.
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>> No. 4760 ID: 98c9d4
For those saying that an assault weapons ban would have prevented this, look up Columbine. That event occurred five years after the Brady Bill was enacted. Didn't seem to stop it from happening.
>> No. 4761 ID: ccb95c
>>4760
I forgot that the entire world works in BINARY.
>> No. 4762 ID: 98c9d4
>>4761

Everybody makes mistakes.


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Lost in the hullubalu of the "fiscal cliff" was this interesting memo from former House Republican Dick Armey from Texas, to FreedomWorks, on November 30th:

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November 30, 2012
To: Matt Kibbe, President, FreedomWorks Inc.
From: Honorable Richard K. Armey
Regarding: Resignation

This is to inform you that as of 5:00 P.M. ET on November 30, 2012 I resign my position of Trustee at FreedomWorks, Inc. and my positions of Chairman of FreedomWorks and FreedomWorks Foundation.

As I resign from all board positions and duties, please see below a list of dispositions on outstanding issues: I expect to be fully compensated through the expiration date (December 31, 2012) of my current consulting contract with FreedomWorks. Henceforth FreedomWorks shall be prohibited from using my name, image, or signature in any way or for any purpose without my written permission or in the event of my death, without my heirs written permission.

Effective immediately I expect that Freedom Works shall remove my name, image, and signature from all its letters, print media, postings, web sites, videos, testimonials, endorsements, fund raising materials, and social media, including but not limited to Facebook and Twitter. I expect to receive via email at [redacted] by the close of business, December 4, 2012, all user names, passwords, security questions, and security answers for all accounts, web sites and social media, including but not limited to Facebook and Twitter, created in my name.

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>> No. 4694 ID: 21dd9c
Wow, seems like someone agrees with me.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2012/1204/Big-losers-in-fiscal-cliff-talks-Tea-party-perhaps

I swear to God I didn't even know this article existed when I posted! LOL :D
>> No. 4704 ID: 21dd9c
>>4692
And one more "rat" deserts the sinking ship that is the Tea Party. :D

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57557660/for-gop-and-tea-party-a-growing-divide/
>> No. 4705 ID: c128ad
What's with the asterisk actions and smileys?

That, combined with your choice of language makes me think that you never bothered to read the single board specific rule for /use/.


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So there's a new old kid on the block called ACTA which is far worse than SOPA. So it can DNS block (depending on who you ask) and block YOU from the internet. It forces ISPs to monitor every move you make on the internet. I can imagine tons of people will be too scared to visit any porn sites on the internet incase ISPs decide to out them as perverts for example.

And the worst thing. A whole ton of countries are all in bed about it. So what can we do beyond the usual tried and tested tactics?

I guess we're heading for a 100% real police state after all. I'll bet SOPA and PIPA were deliberately dropped because ACTA does the same thing and will probably become a reality.
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>> No. 4696 ID: c23383
Sorry for necroing, but this thread seems most appropriate...

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/12/04/1280121/real-threat-un-itu/?mobile=nc

These "Internet regulation" laws just keep popping out like weed-where you pluck out one batch two more grow out in it's place.
>> No. 4697 ID: 98c9d4
It will never stop. Just as the west was eventually brought under umbrella of law and order, so shall the Internet in time. So enjoy it while it's free.
>> No. 4698 ID: 8a88b1
>>4697

>law and order
>implying they are not doing this to control everything that goes on Internet and stop criticism and free, unregulated flow of information and that this isn't benefiting only the big media corporations and corrupt politicians
>> No. 4699 ID: 98c9d4
>>4698

How did I imply it wasn't for the purpose you just said? I said enjoy the freedom while you have it. I think that implies the freedom will be lost.


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